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maranello55
post Feb 26 2009, 09:53 PM
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tomorrow wanna concentrate round 1 liao....saturday la...demo leh host ke?
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post Feb 26 2009, 10:02 PM
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i will resetting my router for port forward thingy. i will host hihihi
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post Feb 26 2009, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (PCcrazy @ Feb 26 2009, 07:33 PM) *
Can rally techniques be applied to drifting? Will the setup be the main factor to make the drifts?


sure can. it is somewhat similar. as long as the car can slides through a corner, then its fine.

car setup is important in drifting but not crucial compared to grip racing.

QUOTE (kamal afiq @ Feb 26 2009, 10:02 PM) *
i will resetting my router for port forward thingy. i will host hihihi



host sekarang pun ok juga.. sbb besok ka or lusa ka saya xde.. huhu.. but i need to download the game 1st lah lol..
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post Feb 27 2009, 01:59 AM
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Apo daaa...nak host tp game pon tarak.

My first drift in LFS!!! U know where i practice? Blackwood pit exit into the track lol. A nice buildup of speed, downhill...then up...from 4th heel toe down to 2nd...then back slipping away....a little countersteer and throttle tapping....it was drift bebeh....DRIFT!!!! lol...i didnt use e-brake...just losing the tail (IMG:http://www.malaysiansimracers.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

crap LFS dont save replay automatically...dang
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post Feb 27 2009, 07:36 AM
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ok la ps nie ble host server lfs lak. da berabuk lfs aku. kesian
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post Mar 1 2009, 08:19 PM
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aku dah beli S2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wooohooo!!!! heel toe-ing, upshift downshift 720deg....baru la real driving sim!!! i love the clutch...much2 better than rfactor.
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post Mar 1 2009, 08:42 PM
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muahahahaha!!! welcome to the darkside bro! host la sometime. im back to uniten already, maybe i n join but with mouse je la. bro tikus maybe has some tips to share in the world of sideways there xD
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post Mar 1 2009, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (kamal afiq @ Mar 1 2009, 08:42 PM) *
muahahahaha!!! welcome to the darkside bro! host la sometime. im back to uniten already, maybe i n join but with mouse je la. bro tikus maybe has some tips to share in the world of sideways there xD


LOL...tq2...i consider going sideways is a 'blackart' in real life as well as in sim. Im getting familar with heeling n toeing (as in grip racing) but the still not sure how to start a drift.

Basically, the setup of the car kinna have to be more loaded to the front, no? Since u need the rear kinna wanna swap with the front...but drifters ctrl the moment in between that...am i rite?

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post Mar 1 2009, 10:11 PM
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Why do you use LFS rather than a rfactor mod ? Is LFS better ?

I tried the demo, it's fun. But the demo car is kinda underpowered, no ?
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post Mar 1 2009, 10:28 PM
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I use LFS for the clutch. In terms of difference between LFS drifting and rFactor drift mod, u gotta ask Kamal or Ilham. hehe.

Yes demo car is underpowered. But with the right setup, u can still drift that car XR coz its rear wheel driven. Get S1 or S2 license to unlock the GT cars and Formula cars.
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post Mar 2 2009, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (maranello55 @ Mar 1 2009, 08:19 PM) *
aku dah beli S2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wooohooo!!!! heel toe-ing, upshift downshift 720deg....baru la real driving sim!!! i love the clutch...much2 better than rfactor.


QUOTE (maranello55 @ Mar 1 2009, 09:36 PM) *
LOL...tq2...i consider going sideways is a 'blackart' in real life as well as in sim. Im getting familar with heeling n toeing (as in grip racing) but the still not sure how to start a drift.

Basically, the setup of the car kinna have to be more loaded to the front, no? Since u need the rear kinna wanna swap with the front...but drifters ctrl the moment in between that...am i rite?



hehey.. welcome to the darkside; full with evil spirit LOL. yea, drift actually an art as u dancing around the course. well mara, the setups can be differ from others and it is more to personal taste. just like in grip, where u tune the car to go fast on straight OR going fast on corners. u pick. its pretty much the same way in drifting. as the rule of thumb, yea, it is easier to drift if u put more mass upfront. but for me i like the natural kind of way.
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post Mar 2 2009, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE (Vaillant @ Mar 1 2009, 10:11 PM) *
Why do you use LFS rather than a rfactor mod ? Is LFS better ?

I tried the demo, it's fun. But the demo car is kinda underpowered, no ?



i never tried the rfactor drift mod. so i cant give u pros and cons. aiyah mara, u shud answer this la since u tried both already lol.

indeed the demo car (xrg) are too underpowered. but still a good car if u a learner.




p/s: mara, host la ini malam. im available (IMG:http://www.malaysiansimracers.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

oh btw, whats ur lfs ingame name mara? want to add u to my buddy lists.
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post Mar 2 2009, 05:15 PM
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QUOTE (maranello55 @ Mar 1 2009, 09:36 PM) *
LOL...tq2...i consider going sideways is a 'blackart' in real life as well as in sim. Im getting familar with heeling n toeing (as in grip racing) but the still not sure how to start a drift.

Basically, the setup of the car kinna have to be more loaded to the front, no? Since u need the rear kinna wanna swap with the front...but drifters ctrl the moment in between that...am i rite?


yea2, DARKSIDE!
hurmm...let see, i tried to attach the file here but ended up FAIL. do host the game coz there we can send our setup as ur R&D 'base'. i dont know about others, but for me i will set the suspension as stiff as possible WITHOUT messing up the car which ends up has a very2 bumpy ride and for the front suspension i do make it stifer but not as stiff as the rear and not as soft as the grip setup. get what i mean? and the camber too, the camber i set to negative value and it depends on the layout really. some layout needs VERY2 big negative camber and others just nice with -1 or -2.

QUOTE (Vaillant @ Mar 1 2009, 10:11 PM) *
Why do you use LFS rather than a rfactor mod ? Is LFS better ?

I tried the demo, it's fun. But the demo car is kinda underpowered, no ?


the rFactor drift mod cant stand the chance to LFS in terms of drifting. in rfactor, just like i said no matter how much u trash ur clutch by clutch kicking technique it will end up going strong with no ending but in LFS u can just simply overheat ur clutch. that's y in the competition it gets very2 challenging especialy in one on one battle. u see, u wont be given any chance to pit for tyre change or repair when u are fighting against one particular drifter. so, if both of u are equally good and using almost the same setup the only different it makes is the way u take care of ur clutch, suspension and rear tyres so that those can last as long as possible. FYI, there's high possibility that a battle last for 5 or 6 rounds. imagine if u do clutch kicking technique too much, can ur clutch survive till the end? no!. and u want to begg the judge to give u chance to pit? KISS MY ASS he said, UNLESS, it goes WAY TOO LONG and both drivers are asking for pit then it will be fine. but IIRC, me and tydus did face each other and we drag the battle to 4th round, and yet the judge didnt let us pit (IMG:http://www.malaysiansimracers.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


the demo car is 1.8L NA with the weight of that freaking chasis alone just a lil bit lighter than the turbo version 2.0L. so, the car is indeed underpower. but if u have enough skill(no offense)+the habit of full throttle most of the time and nicely setup car, u can actually drift it at 120kmh. hehehe. DCM LFS drifters prove them in one of the event back in 08.

QUOTE (ilhamhalabi @ Mar 2 2009, 04:03 PM) *
hehey.. welcome to the darkside; full with evil spirit LOL. yea, drift actually an art as u dancing around the course. well mara, the setups can be differ from others and it is more to personal taste. just like in grip, where u tune the car to go fast on straight OR going fast on corners. u pick. its pretty much the same way in drifting. as the rule of thumb, yea, it is easier to drift if u put more mass upfront. but for me i like the natural kind of way.


SIFOO!!!

QUOTE (ilhamhalabi @ Mar 2 2009, 04:10 PM) *
i never tried the rfactor drift mod. so i cant give u pros and cons. aiyah mara, u shud answer this la since u tried both already lol.

indeed the demo car (xrg) are too underpowered. but still a good car if u a learner.




p/s: mara, host la ini malam. im available (IMG:http://www.malaysiansimracers.com/forum/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

oh btw, whats ur lfs ingame name mara? want to add u to my buddy lists.


SIFOO!!
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post Mar 2 2009, 05:41 PM
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jom la ... host la seber msr lfs 1 aku ada s2 licence but never use for almost a year now
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heres some screenies of d2d actions. this is the fun that we're talking all time. the art of sideways in tsuiso battles.

(IMG:http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4922/pictures1pg8.jpg)

(IMG:http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3507/pictures6uz8.jpg)

(IMG:http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/558/pictures5eq1.jpg)

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(IMG:http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7749/pictures12av7.jpg)

*drift performance by team d'zire. rip already lol. pictah taken by supraboy.
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